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I appreciate the sentiments guys, myself and the guys I work with don't think of ourselves as heroes we are fireman doing our jobs. When people call us we are the last chance, if we don't succeed people die. Most of the guys who work with me are for the most part tradesman like yourselves, you have to have some skill to get in my company and they are all handpicked, welders, plumbers, carpenters, ironworkers, myself I was a carpenter, when in the Navy an Electricians Mate. Besides having to be adept at Firefighting, my men have to be skilled in the use of extrication tools, Mapp, petrogen and exothermic torchs, carpentry, rigging, confined space, high angle, trench rescue, and collapse shoring, etc. We train constantly, these guys are highly motivated individuals. Last March when a tower crane collapsed in manhattan my guys worked tirelessly for over 6 hours to free a man who was buried in a collapsed tenement, this man is alive today today because of the grit and tenacity of these men. Yeah I'm proud of my men and what they do. Just like when I look at the work you guys do I am amazed at the craftsmanship and I am in awe when I look at the work that gets made from a flat piece of steel and it's transformed into a work of art.

Bob

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I appreciate the sentiments guys, myself and the guys I work with don't think of ourselves as heroes we are fireman doing our jobs. When people call us we are the last chance, if we don't succeed people die. Most of the guys who work with me are for the most part tradesman like yourselves, you have to have some skill to get in my company and they are all handpicked, welders, plumbers, carpenters, ironworkers, myself I was a carpenter, when in the Navy an Electricians Mate. Besides having to be adept at Firefighting, my men have to be skilled in the use of extrication tools, Mapp, petrogen and exothermic torchs, carpentry, rigging, confined space, high angle, trench rescue, and collapse shoring, etc. We train constantly, these guys are highly motivated individuals. Last March when a tower crane collapsed in manhattan my guys worked tirelessly for over 6 hours to free a man who was buried in a collapsed tenement, this man is alive today today because of the grit and tenacity of these men. Yeah I'm proud of my men and what they do. Just like when I look at the work you guys do I am amazed at the craftsmanship and I am in awe when I look at the work that gets made from a flat piece of steel and it's transformed into a work of art.

Bob

-cheeseman252

It takes all kinds of people to make this world work. There is a job for everyone. Clearly being a firefighter is far from being easy, and not everyone can do that, nor would everyone put themselves at risk for other peoples well being. I know your just doing your job, but when your working your hardest your doing something that has a profound effect of peoples lives and well being. Call it Heroism, bravery, or "just doing my job" either way I'm glad your out there!
Thanks!
Gordo

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Thanks for the nice words Gordo

Bob

p.s. love the wagon, had a 91 ltd wagon that my buddy gave me with a blown engine, rebuilt it and drove it for years. Guys at work would call it the battlestar galactica

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X-Mas in September, Sheetmetal came today, you guys do this a lot more than I do where do I start. Front fender or go right for the quarters.

Bob

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Don't you kinda work from the inside out? Like with a house you have to have a solid foundation before you throw up some walls. I'm not a body guy, either, but it seems to me from all the builds they show on TV that they work from the bottom up and the inside out.

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p.s. love the wagon, had a 91 ltd wagon that my buddy gave me with a blown engine, rebuilt it and drove it for years. Guys at work would call it the battlestar galactica

-cheeseman252


Haha! Thats awesome. We've always called this one the Enterprise. The original wagon I had rusted out and we took the driveline out of it. We actually painted a aircraft carrier runway on the roof. It was gray and the paint had turned flat after all the years. It was pretty funny.

As for where to start. I agree with e-merlin. Start with the floors.

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Well, heres the plan, I have a section of the trunk floor to replace I am only going to replace what is rotted there. then move on to the quarters, once again I'll expose what is rotted and cut away, I want to keep as much original sheet metal as possible. Here is a question for Lou, Flange or Butt weld the replacements in?

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Cheeseman just wondering if you have any progress photos yet?

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Nah, Haven't had the time, just finished teaching a class on trench collapse rescue at the FDNY technical rescue school, plus working at the firehouse. Also have 11 windows that I have to get in before the winter crap gets here, all in due time I am not going to rush through this.

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Well the good weather is finally here and all my commitments are done for the time being, so I started to pull her apart, I'm going to hit the drivers side front fender there was some bubbling on the lower section, I pulled it off and there was a prior repair. I cut it out to fresh metal, cut a piece out of the repair panel it looks like it fits well, turns out the brace needs more work so I'll use metal from the rest of the repair panel to supply the metal for that and see how well I do. The only place I had a problem getting off was the lower attachment point, I had to cut the head off the bolt was just spinning, I guess I'll have to cut the spot welds and get the piece off remove the old captive nut out and weld another one in unless someone has a better Idea

Bob

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Rebuilt the brace as best I could I don't have a good one for reference, ground it all down and sprayed with weld through primer.
Tacked the replacement in then finished weld. ground it all down, and then I will do all the filler when it is back on the car, and fitted. Filled the trim holes by using a copper spoon I made and filled it in with weld that worked pretty good.

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some more pics

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Looking good.  That back side brace was damn near gone.  Good thing you pulled the fender off for  another repair.

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Yeah, I finally did the filler work and refit it all, and after some tweaking on the gaps put a coat of primer on it. I can see how it all snowballs because I sanded down the inner fender and shot that with satin black and now will do the same to the whole engine compt. just waiting on some radiator support bushings. I will get some more pics up if it is nice tomorrow. I am planning on doing the whole front end done first then move to the rear quarters.

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Back to work on it did some work on the engine compartment, and replaced the radiator support bushings. My pal Jim got the use of an area of a small body shop in Manorvile so we started cutting out the old rear quarters the metal beneath was not too bad I will clean up and spray some rust converter and then put the new quarters. The one thing I don't like is these only come in 2 pieces, oh well off to the races.

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seems to have it's fare share of rust around the wheel wells

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from what i have seen it doesnt look half bad for a northern car. my lemans came from pittsburg and it was an absolute mess

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The rust wasn't too bad, some around the inner wheel well, and the trunk extension but we made some new pieces up welded them in then sprayed some rust converter on everything. These 2 piece qtrs were a bit if a pain to fit, but the gauge of the repops were heavier than the original, we flanged and seam welded the top. Around the wheel wells we used Norton Speed grip and that worked out real good holds like hell and also seals it up nice.
Ground everything spread some Rage gold and went to work getting the line staraight , my buddy Jim is real good with the plastic, here are some updated pics:

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Looks good cheeseman. Love the car.

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Quarter is looking good !

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